Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby christo » Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:03 pm

I am sorry but I know nothing about these two. Maybe Jason can enlighten us and rename this topic.

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Photo Balkanmodels: Kalamata Railway Park 1998

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Photo Balkanmodels: Kalamata Railway Park 1998

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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1884 Belgian carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:20 pm

These were the only original Thessalian Railways meter gauge passenger carriages, built by LA METALLURGIQUE - S.A. DE CONSTRUCTION ATELIERS DE NIVELLES (BELGIQUE) in 1883-1885. Classes :

--> ΑΑτ 1 & 2 (Royal and Administration carriages)
--> ΑΒτ 21-32
--> Βτ 101-136
--> ΒτΜ 151-158.

One strange thing to note about them is that some of them with random numberings had different window arrangement, having 3 bigger windows instead of the "normal" 4 smaller windows.


A small numbers of them were transported to the Peloponnese network to be used as storage rooms during track maintenance, while an Italian Z12 boxcar was converted with two buffers on the one side, to connect those with any other Peloponnesian vehicle.


Some more of them were again transported from Thessaly to be stored at the Kalamata's Railway park (the ones at christo's photos).



Fortunately, there are still some withdrawn at the Thessalian line, but in terrible condition...
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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1884 Belgian carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:15 pm

ΑΑτ 2 at Paleofarsalos (photo: A. Luft)

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ΑΑτ 1 & 2 at Volos

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ΑΒτ 29 at Trikala "Railfans Club"

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Unknown number at Dasolofos

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Βτ 103 (photo: A. Luft)

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Βτ 105 at Aerino

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Βτ 107 (photo: A. Luft)

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Unknown number at Aerino

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Βτ 124 (photo: A. Luft)

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Βτ 126 at Velestino

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...... :shock: :shock: :? Yes (!) 2-3 of them were converted to maintenance cars ... with UIC numberings :roll: , 30 73 100 7 353-2 at Aerino

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Unknown numbers, at Nafplio new station.

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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:35 pm

1883

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1884

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1885 ?

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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:27 pm

thanks Jason, great assortment of photos!
they are really good looking at those Luft photos, imagine of an excursion train with them!!!

the two at Volos aren't they those used by the King?
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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:38 pm

As i wrote, ΑΑτ 1 (the blue one) is the royal carriage (for the king) and ΑΑτ 2 (the green one) was the "Όχημα διοικήσεως" (something like the Administration's carriage).
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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby christo » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:50 pm

Is this one of the Belgian ones?

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Photo D.W.Winkworth from Railway Magazine August 1965.

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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:09 pm

Yes .... these are also of the same builder, 1883-1884, Δτ 201-210.

Δτ 203 at Dasolofos

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Δτ 205 (a bit different) at Velestino.

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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby BalkanExpress » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:35 pm

Good afternoon.

Have you noticed in those B&W pictures with people into coaches that in those pictures, coaches has some kind of logo in the middle of the sides, as a logo that had been removed or painted?

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Re: Σ.Θ. - 1883-1885 Belgian carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:50 pm

Of course , it's the ΣΕΚ logo ..

Here you can see the remainings of one which was painted over.

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