ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby BarbaPanagos » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:54 pm

thanks Iossif for pointing the use of the missing part...


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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby christo » Thu May 12, 2016 10:37 am

BM 13.4.16 sp7.JPG

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2016 at Kalamata Railway Park station. Locomotive Δ 7119.

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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby christo » Wed May 18, 2016 9:20 am

BM 13.4.16 sp17.JPG

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2016 at Kalamata Railway Park station. Another Breda Δ 7xxx locomotive. Maybe Jason will identify it for us.

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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby GAZKGK » Sat May 21, 2016 2:34 am

It is 7120... initially the first, and finally the last unit of her class. ;)

When it first went to the park after years of being abandoned at the depot, her number was not visible, so they probably decided to pick a random number that looks logical and paint it on her... 8-) :roll: That was "Δα 7109". one number higher than the last unit of 7101-7108 MacArthur ΔΑ class. :?

Finally, it got covered by the new layer of paint in around 2013.
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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby Georgegala » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:38 am

They were bought together with the Breda coaches and the 17 DMUs.(Actually, they were 18 but......)
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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby GAZKGK » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:48 pm

They were ordered and built during the same period, approximately (1950-1952), however I don't think we could say 'they were bought together', (a) each of the three classes you mention had its own contract, and (b) the contracts of the rolling stock you mention was signed between the manufacturer and a different railway each time... (ΣΠΑΠ, ΣΕΚ, ΣΘ, ΣΒΔΕ).

But what do you mean by that?

Georgegala wrote:(Actually, they were 18 but......)


To be so confident, I guess you have some strong evidence in your hands...
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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby Georgegala » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:02 pm

I have read that a DMU numbered Α-15 was ordered but it didn't come.Like that Σ.Π.Κ. steam loco that remained forever in Germany.....


But Α-15,as far as I know, was never completed......,whereas the steam loco was ready to be shipped to Greece.
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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby GAZKGK » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:42 am

There was a suspicion regarding a 15th but remained as such - there was not any conclusion that "they were actually 15".

It is possible that initial plans could include 15 units but, according to the contract, signed 23 May 1950, the 14 we know were the only ordered.


As for the Σ.Π.Κ. steam locomotive, that's a whole different story of strategic interest: within the first World War, the Germans would surely prefer to send the locomotive to a friendly railway instead of one of the antagonist. The same happened to 5 out of the 8 steam locomotives built by A. Borsig of Berlin in 1917 for SPAP but ended up at Hejaz Railway... :roll:

But I' m afraid we are getting off topic. :oops:
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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby BalkanExpress » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:56 am

No, apreciate GAZKGK, because we all love trains and all that information sounds interesting...so much...

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Re: ΔΙ 7111-7120 - BREDA 1951

Postby christo » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:11 am

In my opinion, what Jason doesn't know, is not worth knowing.

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