OSE PΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

OSE PΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby GAZKGK » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:54 pm

One of the most rare classes....... of O.S.E.


Three grain hoppers .... as series ΡΣ (something like ''Grain Tanker'') 31 73 933 8 000-002, ex- S.N.C.F. 21 87 097 8 004-006, Uagbbs

Built by CONSTRECTEUR C.F.M.F. 42 BALBIGNY, FRANCE, 1973.



I have found only the 2 out of three...

31 73 933 8 001-7, ex- S.N.C.F. 21 87 097 8 005-8 - Nea Magnisia

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31 73 933 8 002-5, ex- S.N.C.F. 21 87 097 8 006-6 - Nea Magnisia

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Re: OSE ΡΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby christo » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:31 pm

Jason there were 3 hoppers from Poland as well built by Zastal in 1979.

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Re: OSE ΡΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby GAZKGK » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:23 pm

Yes.... i thought that we would put them in a different topic :mrgreen:

Unfortunately i have no photos of this series ....
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Re: OSE ΡΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby TimCC6558 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:55 pm

Very interesting wagons, similar to the SNCF 'face bombée' types but with a number of differences. Interestingly, they have the cast type of Y25 bogie, unusual on cereal hoppers which normally have the welded type. I have not so far been able to find out how many were built for SNCF, but there are certainly none like these in service today, as far as I'm aware.

Balbigny is in south-eastern France in the Rhône-Alpes region. CFMF was originally 'Ateliers et Chantiers de Balbigny' and specialised in the manufacture of mining equipment including narrow gauge railway items. Bought out in 1930, they became 'Compagnie Forézienne de Matériel Ferroviaire', later 'Compagnie Française de Matériel Ferroviaire' and following a period of operating in the railway scrap trade, they turned to building wagons in the 1960s, while the new owner, a car enthusiast, turned part of the company's work to building a high perfromance sports car that was called the 'Monica'. Many technical difficulties were encountered in developing this vehicle and in the end only 17 were made, the financial problems caused resulting in the company's closure in 1987.
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Re: OSE PΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby jmfret » Wed May 06, 2015 7:46 pm

Hello, Everybody!

These three grain hoppers are only similar to the "faces bombées", classic on french rails.

Instead, this model was a pulverulent hopper ... This série was at a time, unexploited et low solded , it explains its dispersion... So several owners has bought some of these for particular products, for example rapeseed, alfalfa, sugar (France Luzerne,TMF CITA, FranceSucre), and some others, simply for corn, as Monfer.

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Now, part of the serie is seeked in the pool Transcéréales.

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Re: OSE PΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby RailwayManiac » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:09 am

Hello everybody,

I am very recently registered an this fabulous forum !

I just discovered by chance this topic about grain hopper cars and I was very surprised to discover the CFMCF (not CFMF) wagons. These type was rather rare in France too !

CFMCF menans : Compagnie Française de Matériel de Chemin de Fer (Ateliers de Balbigny - 42)

Nice to see jmfret ! ;)

see you !

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Re: OSE PΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby BarbaPanagos » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:05 am

Hi RailwayManiac, welcome to our company
Is there any model of the French Hopper around that we could convert?
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Re: OSE PΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby RailwayManiac » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:03 am

Hello BarbaPanagos,

Thanks for your welcome wishes !

Concerning your questions, I can't answer it because I don't know the greek standard gauge rolling stock.

I just can show you the three most common types grain hopper wagon in France (built from the late '60 to to the early '80). Maybe some were sold in Greece ?

First type : 96 m3 capacity, flat sides. Built by Fauvet-Girel.

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Second type : 94 m3 capacity, flat sides. Built by Fauvet-Girel.

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Third type : 94 m3 capacity, rounded sides. Built by Fauvet-Girel. With three emptying trapdoors for the first ones and two for the last ones.

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Both types exist at HO scale by Hornby-Jouef and maybe at "N" scale :

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The flat one is the old Rivarossi. The rounded one is made by Hornby-Jouef. The 96 m" was made by the now disappeared French firm "Le RMA" in the '70 but the wagon had many errors.

Märklin rounded (HO) are very nice too but the flat ones are wrong because too short.

Best regards,

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Re: OSE PΣ GRAIN HOPPERS 933 8 000-002 & 933 8 003-005

Postby BarbaPanagos » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:03 pm

merci pour toutes ces informations Christophe :)
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Postby RailwayManiac » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:17 pm

You're welcome barbaPanagos ! ;)

I will be very interested to know if identical hoppers wagons were used in Greece !

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