OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:07 am

BM CG 51732080 644-4 Apr95.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 1995 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51732080 644-4.

BM CG 51733980 081-8 Apr95.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 1995 Carriage Shed Thessaloniki. Carriage 51733980 081-8 amongst many others.

BM CG 51738280 8xx Apr94.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 1994 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738280 8xx. There is a glimpse of some Red Sleepers in the background.

BM CG 51738280 849-4 Apr01.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2001 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738280 849-4.

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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:12 pm

OK. A lot of gratitude to Sachsenmodelle and then Tillig. Two carriages as part of four car set 14010 and 14009.
web SAMO 14010set.JPG

web SAMO 14009set.JPG

Then I asked them to make some exclusives for Balkan Models. So three carriages were produced. Each number aprox. 120 pieces.
web SAMO 74528.JPG

web SAMO 74529.JPG

web SAMO 74532.JPG

Then Sachsen produced this one.
web SAMO 74520.JPG

Finally they produced for Balkan Models two red/white BDms. This time aprox. 150 pieces for each number.
web SAMO 74530.JPG

web SAMO 74531.JPG


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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:34 pm

Then of course OSE changed their insignia and logo.
BM CG 5173 2040 639-3 Apr05.jpg

BM CG 5173 3940 080-9 Apr05a.jpg

Both Photos Balkanmodels: April 2005 at NES Thessaloniki. Alas that was my last serious attempt at recording stock. The running down of the Railways in Greece had begun. Twenty happy years chasing trains and all things moving on rails. Dodging officials, bribing with UK football momentoes etc. Ah happy days.

So I got Sachsen to produce two more carriages. This time aprox. 150 cars of each number.
web SAMO 500395.JPG

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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:24 pm

Built in 1974 - 1975 by VEREINIGTER SCHIENENFAHRZEUGBAU - DEUTSCHE DEMOKRATISCHE REPUBLIC - VEB WAGGONBAU BAUTZEN

:arrow: 51 73 20-80 631 - 653, ex- 51 73 20-80 301 - 323. Some of them were demoted to 51 73 20-40 6XX-X, Bm, ex- Bme
:arrow: 51 73 39-80 071 - 082, ex- 51 73 39-80 101 - 112. Some of them were demoted to 51 73 39-40 0XX-X, ABm, ex- ABme
:arrow: 51 73 82-80 841 - 855, ex- 51 73 82-80 001 - 015. Some of them were demoted to 51 73 82-40 8XX-X, BDms

51 73 20-40 638-5 - Nea Magnisia

51 73 20-80 638-5 (ΜΑΓΝΗΣΙΑ) (20-40).JPG


51 73 20-40 653-4 - Thessaloniki

51 73 20-80 653-4 (ΔΙΑΚ.ΕΣΘ) (20-40).JPG










51 73 39-80 076-8 - Lachanokipi

51 73 39-80 076-8 (ΛΑΧΑΝΟΚΗΠΟΙ).JPG


51 73 39-80 077-6 - Lachanokipi

51 73 39-80 077-6 (ΛΑΧΑΝΟΚΗΠΟΙ).JPG










51 73 82-40 844-4 - Thessaloniki, 2005.

51 73 82-80 844-4 (ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗ) (82-40).JPG


51 73 82-40 845-1 - Thessaloniki

51 73 82-80 845-1 (ΔΙΑΚ.ΕΣΘ) (82-40).JPG


51 73 82-80 853-6 - Lachanokipi

51 73 82-80 853-6 (ΛΑΧΑΝΟΚΗΠΟΙ).JPG
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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:43 pm

Some of them were demoted to 51 73 xx40


I think they were all downgraded from xx80 to xx40 showing the maximum permited speed from 160km/h reduced to 140km/h.

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Postby GAZKGK » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:53 pm

Not all ... I have found these which are still '' XX-80 ''

51 73 20-80 637-8
51 73 20-80 642-8
51 73 20-80 651-9

51 73 39-80 076-8
51 73 39-80 077-6
51 73 39-80 079-2

51 73 82-80 849-4
51 73 82-80 851-0
51 73 82-80 853-6
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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:29 pm

Jason,
If I understand correctly, the unchanged carriages you mention had the new OSE logo and numbering on the sole bar but kept their xx80. Or were there carriages with xx80 but still with the old logo?

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Postby GAZKGK » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:48 pm

(At least most of them) had still the old logo. Some, or maybe all of them were destroyed / out of use before the downgrading.
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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby TimCC6558 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:44 am

Here's 82 80 853-6 at Nea Filadelfia in May 2000:

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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby Olympus » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:41 pm

Tillig NEWS 2014 !!!

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with number 70010E

!!! last order/reservation day 31.03.2014 !!!!

more under
http://www.tillig.com/index-2.htm

look on page 29!


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