OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby Olympus » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:23 pm

Christo i think the Coach numbers are correct.

On the solebar stand "Bautzen" and not "EDRA THES/NIKI", so i think Tillig has made the model cars with original photos from the German Workshop
(first run out Photos from new cars), possibly was the photos Black/White and that is the reason about the not complete correct painting.


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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby GAZKGK » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:36 pm

christo wrote:
I am waiting from Tillig the pictures from the coaches. They had sent them to me last year in order to help with the inscriptions. Unfortunately my computer crashed and I lost them... They WILL send them to me again (they promised). So we'll clarify the colour of the solebar.


Are there any further news from Tillig yet? Yesterday I opened my set and these were the running numbers:
5173 2080 304-5 Bm
5173 3940 112-1 ABm
5173 8280 001-2 BDm
Can anyone confirm if these numbers were genuine in the 70s?

christo.t


51 73 20-80 304-5 and 51 73 82-80 001-2, yes, they were the first numberings that were given to the Bautzens.

51 73 39-40 112-1 is incorrect, and was given to an Italian 1950 coach. However, the general "concept" of the initial numberings of the ABm Bautzen is correct, but the right number is 51 73 39-80 112-1.
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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:08 am

Since there has been no evidence to date, we have to by now assume that the livery of the recent Tillig set and the numbering of their AB carriage are fictitious. That is a shame... but let us continue seeing some actual liveries...

xBM CG 5173 2040 639-3 Apr05b.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2005 at NES Thessaloniki. Second class Carriage 5173 2040 639-3. This was the prototype of model 500395.

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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:33 am

BM CG 5173 3940 080-9 Apr05b.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2005 at NES Thessaloniki. First / Second class composite carriage 5173 3940 080-9. This was the prototype of model 500396.

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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:51 am

BM CG 5173 3940 080-9 Apr05c.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2005 at NES Thessaloniki. Bogie detail of First / Second class composite carriage 5173 3940 080-9.

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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:26 am

BM CG 5173 3980 078-4 Apr01a.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2001 at NES Thessaloniki. First / Second class composite carriage 5173 3940 078-4.

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Re: OSE VEB 5173 2080 631-653 Bm & 5173 3980 071-082 ABm & 5173 8280 841-855 BDm carriages

Postby christo » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:29 am

BM CG 5173 3980 078-4 Apr01b.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2001 at NES Thessaloniki. First / Second class composite carriage 5173 3940 078-4.

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Postby christo » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:37 am

BM CG 5173 3980 078-4 Apr01c.jpg

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Postby christo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:51 am

BM CG 5173 3980 078-4 Apr01d.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2001 at NES Thessaloniki. End detail of first / second class composite carriage 5173 3940 078-4.

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Postby christo » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:59 pm

BM CG 5173 3980 078-4 Apr01e.jpg

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