SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Re: OSE Passenger Coaches Questions

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:20 pm

theo, have a look here viewtopic.php?f=12&t=31&start=10, Christo has already posted this photo

Lilliput L328601 is a model that could be used, there is a Rocco one as well


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Re: OSE Passenger Coaches Questions

Postby christo » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:27 pm

theo,

I sell those Liliput carriages in set boxes of three. All brand new.Supplied with SEK plates or not. Pm for price and photos if you wish.

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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby christo » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:05 pm

BM IN Brp599.jpg

Another photo off the internet of Brp599 before final disintegration.

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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby christo » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:26 am

BM IN Pfk.jpg

Photo French Ministry of Culture showing King Alexander of Greece arriving in Salonica in February 1917. Two carriages are recognisable, the bogied Πφκ1 and the 4 wheeler Πκ 2.

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Diagrams of the above two Royal carriages registered originally to PDS then SEK.

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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby christo » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:51 am

BM IN CO cara.jpg

Photo French Ministry of Culture showing 2 carriages converted around WWI to Ambulance cars constructed by Ringhoffer. The order to Ringhoffer was a joint one between StEG, MAV, SZD, BDZ and CO. So the question is what happened to these two. SEK inherited 4 CO carriages very similar to them but not the same. Where is Tim, Andreas, Pierre, when you need them? :mrgreen:

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Drawing of the Ringhoffer carriage.

BM IN CO carb.jpg

Drawing of the CO carriages inherited by SEK.


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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:45 am

let's see who has something to tel us about this one :D

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I have found it here http://ek-kinisi.blogspot.gr/2013_10_01_archive.html
incorrectly placed within an article about 1940 Greek-Italian war
obviously shot during, or after, the 1912-1913 Balkan Wars. note the CO logo on the wagon at the left

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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby Andreas » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:06 pm

Hi Christo,

considering these Coaches from the CO I have a theory about that. I was studying some photos the other day and I saw a famous picture (the one with one La and a passenger train at papadia). If you take a look at the first coach you will see the same underframe....I would guess that these were modified/rebuilt after WWII. That is very bad because these coaches are very elegant.

I will be back to add the picture...I am currently sitting in ICE77 towards Zurich. :D

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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:55 am

Veroia 1912, Prince Konstantinos, General Daglis and other HQ stuff at the Rail Station.

Βέροια, Οκτώβριος 1912, ο διάδοχος Κωνσταντίνος και οι Επιτελείς του στον σιδηροδρομικό σταθμό λίγες μέρες μετά την απελευθέρωση της πόλη.jpg

could you recognize any of these coaches?

from the fb page https://www.facebook.com/theodoros.metallinos

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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby christo » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:49 am

The carriages in that line should have been SM which was an independent part of the CO. The SM in Greek reads ΘΜ . Is there something like that on the edge of the roof of the middle carriage directly above the door? But I will think further on this photo which I see for the first time.

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Re: SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:54 am

Yes, for me it surely says "ΘΜ" there ... but it looks like it has been edited - added on the photo. The photo looks far more blurry there.. :? :?
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