OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby BalkanExpress » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:52 am

So...those secound-buffet, apart from the inner distribution (tables) and the window ventilator, and of course the lettering, are the same that the one in ACME's Istambul Express OSE coach?

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:20 pm

are the same that the one in ACME's Istambul Express OSE coach?


I can see the same numbers of windows, same bogies, different boxes on the underframe, different interiors. I understood that Mr and Mr ACME were considering doing it. In fact I had already given them all my photos but it seems that I have fallen out of favour with them :cry: . However, I suspect there may be a possibility that our friend erail ;) might be stocking it sometime in the future. Let us wait a little and we might be blessed with our first Buffet OSE carriage. :D

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby Sky » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:25 pm

christo wrote:
BM CG Mar02 51738580 744-4f.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: March 2002 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738580 744-4. First under carriage box after the bogie.

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This could be a box for bottles with liquid gas.
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby Sky » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:53 pm

The croatian version of the box:

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1:87 (ACME)
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby Sky » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:21 am

BalkanExpress wrote:So...those secound-buffet, apart from the inner distribution (tables) and the window ventilator, and of course the lettering, are the same that the one in ACME's Istambul Express OSE coach?

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The difference may be seen in the roof construction, since these OSE buffet cars usually have the roof cover plates!
Also the difference in underframe parts and air heating grille positions...
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:58 am

Also the difference in ... air heating grille positions


The position of these grilles are in the same position for Bcm and BRm 741-747 which are between window 6 and 7.
The grilles in BRm 771-777 are between window 5 and 6.

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:01 am

BM CG Mar02 51738580 744-4g.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: March 2002 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738580 744-4. The next under carriage box after the bogie.

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:03 am

BM CG Mar02 51738580 744-4h.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: March 2002 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738580 744-4. The controls in the middle of the carriage.

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby Sky » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:48 am

christo wrote:The position of these grilles are in the same position for Bcm and BRm 741-747 which are between window 6 and 7.


Yes christo, they are between 6 and 7, but as I can see on the couchettes it is the left side and on the buffets it is the right side.

It would be great to have photos of all Goša's cars, to compare them all!

Once again, great and very useful photos, christo ! :D :D
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:17 am

You are right again sky. From what I can see:

a) All coaches have grilles on the corridor side.
b) Bcm have grilles between window 4 and 5
c) BRm 741-7 have grilles between window 6 and 7
b) BRm 771-7 have grilles between window 5 and 6

Did I get it right :?:

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