OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby BarbaPanagos » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:11 pm

thanks guys for all the photos and info :D

I might not be that active lately but I'll be back soon. Especially I'll have to keep an eye open as we are approaching to the post No 5000 :mrgreen:


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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby Sky » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:44 pm

christo wrote: a) All coaches have grilles on the corridor side. .

Yes christo, that's absolutely correct!
All carriages (regardless OSE, JZ or A, B, AB, Ac, Bc, Ar, Br version) have those grilles on the corridor side...

christo wrote:b) Bcm have grilles between window 4 and 5
c) BRm 741-7 have grilles between window 6 and 7
b) BRm 771-7 have grilles between window 5 and 6


Yes, that would be a conclusion based on cars for which we have photos! :|
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:35 am

BM CG Mar02 51738580 744-4i.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: March 2002 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738580 744-4. The next writing along the side of the carriage.

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:39 am

BM CG Mar02 51738580 744-4j.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: March 2002 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738580 744-4. More writing at the middle of the carriage.

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby erail » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:41 am

Goodmorning guys!

Happy to say that at least I got the colour right this time:
http://www.erail.gr/index.php?option=co ... 30&lang=el

(Sorry, I can't work out how to post images directly)

About the BRm - Problems-solutions
- BRm numbers (7 numbers) are also available for the modeller to apply, but will have to erase the original lettering and it's NOT easy at all! The worst is that it will leave a mark...
- the good news is that the grill is photoetched and separately applied by Acme thus can be moved to any position.
- the underframe details perhaps can be ordered separately from Acme, again for the modeller to apply
- the bar part of the interior will be produced by me as a resin and photoetched kit (It has to be very detailed to match the high quality of the other half!) The modeller will have to chop :o half the Bcm interior, and replace it with the bar section. Will also have to model the Bcm part by remodelling the births to seats, removing the etched ladders etc... but that's a piece of cake compared to what he has to do to the rest of the coach! :lol:

To conclude, it is feasible to have a very accurate model with a LOT of work and a bit (?) of determination... :mrgreen:

If you have pictures of the BRm interior it will be a great help. I plan to model the 'bar and stool' version first.
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:48 am

it is feasible to have a very accurate model

Will ACME not produce it? :o That is a shame. However thanks for the alternative solution, for those who wish it.

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby erail » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:00 am

christo wrote:
it is feasible to have a very accurate model

Will ACME not produce it? :o That is a shame. However thanks for the alternative solution, for those who wish it.

christo.

They never gave me the impression they intended to! :roll:
And I cannot finance this big a project... I think the 'alternative' as second best, will bring many happy hours to the modeller. Let's not forget, this is the target!
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby Olympus » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:55 am

Hello Boys !

My idea but it is a question of pieces...

but when we makes only 15-30 pieces so;
(at least 1 model number is 10 pieces)
so we can make possibly
1 number -> 20 pieces or
2 numbers, one number 12-15 pieces...

Yiannis, we(you) organize by ACME the 15-30 Basic models (possibly unvarnished), then you dismantle all cars.

We send only the casing to (Albertmodell) they make us the painting / OSE lettering with "pad printing", so
they send then the cars return to Greece, Yianns you make the Resin/brass Parts for the bar

and then "you sell the car as ready painted Kit" ?!
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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:03 am

In any chosen senario one needs photos of all the inscriptions. So here they are the last two photos for this task:

BM CG Mar02 51738580 744-4k.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: March 2002 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738580 744-4. The next photo along the side of the carriage.

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Re: OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

Postby christo » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:09 am

BM CG Mar02 51738580 744-4l.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: March 2002 NES Thessaloniki. Carriage 51738580 744-4. The last photo along the side of the carriage.

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PS. Now there are the Gosa carriages that were painted red and white but (to use the old joke) my scanner is broken :lol:. My fiends, have a good weekend.
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