Pre- and after- war narrow gauge coaches (rebuilt, former, etc.)

Pre- and after- war narrow gauge coaches (rebuilt, former, etc.)

Postby Georgegala » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:52 pm

In this new topic (thanks christo for the permission :mrgreen: to open it) I would like to ask for everybody's help to gather information about the carriages used by;

SPAP (except the four- axled ραβδωτά - they have their own topic)
, as well as other narrow(er) gauge cars used (for example in SS line) in Greece and left here.

To begin with,(I have only types and manufacturers-NO numbering)


1907 Jan Weizer side- doored (ΑΒ 131-135 etc.)
1913 Nesselsdorfer Wagenbau, many (?) types
1925 Ganz Danubius
1884 unknown to me :cry:
1949-1952 all the ραβδωτά types...
SA carriages that passed to the SPAP...
1952 SIAI MARCHETTI (they have their own topic)


1925 (the brothers of <<Πολεμιστής>>- carriage ΒΒΔ 0035- I have its numbering :mrgreen: )(some were destroyed in December of 1935 in an accident).Βφπτ 821 (851?) survives in good condition in Tripolis.


Side doored carriages and normal ones, unknown :cry:
Rebuilt carriages (see A. Luft's photos)


They have an other topic

As for the Pelinon Decauville line;

wooden passenger carriages and passenger - luggage (?) cars
After - war carriages, rebuilt ones, both open and closed (used today)
SS line cars that went there for the reiteration of Volos Tramway which never happened...

SS and Skydra Aridaia, as well as all the lines in Macedonia (GREECE).

Side doored carriages normally, none left (only frame(s) left)

DK line (I did not want to confuse it with the SPAP)

1890 side doored (see Athens Railway Museum)
Newer panoramic view carriages, see Βφπτ 131, as I can remember, in Kalavryta Engine Shed.
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Re: Pre- and after- war narrow gauge coaches (rebuilt, former, etc.)

Postby Pierre B » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:15 pm

Almost two years later, I discovered Digitální archiv Zemského archivu v Opavě.

Among other pictures, there appears to be 427 pictures from the archives of the Nesselsdorfer Wagenbau-Fabriks-Gesellschaft, later TATRA, in Kopřivnice (Nesselsdorf in German), today in the Czech republic.
Have a look at, which is SPAP ΣΠΑΠ ΓΔ-833.

After SPAP ΣΠΑΠ ΓΔ-833 there are a few more. :)

I haven't found a way to upload these, or save them on my computer, hence no direct display.
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Re: Pre- and after- war narrow gauge coaches (rebuilt, former, etc.)

Postby ConTrain » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 pm

Very interesting discovery, Bravo Pier.

I quote copies of the book with the archives of the negatives, where photographs of Greek interest are highlighted in yellow:

Photo Archive_0.jpg

Photo Archive_1.jpg

Photo Archive_2.jpg

Below is a list of interesting photo links:

Negative number 895 ... 45#scan145
Negative number 896 ... 48#scan147
Negative number 897 ... 48#scan148
Negative number 904
There is no photo
Negative number 905
There is no photo
Negative number 906
There is no photo
Negative number 907 ... 57#scan157 ... 58#scan158
Negative number 908 ... 59#scan159
Negative number 909 ... 60#scan160
Negative number 910 ... 61#scan161
Negative number 911 ... 62#scan162
Negative number 912 ... 63#scan163
Negative number 928 ... 81#scan181 ... 82#scan182
Negative number 936 ... 89#scan189
Negative number 937
There is no photo
Negative number 938
There is no photo
Negative number 939
There is no photo

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Re: Pre- and after- war narrow gauge coaches (rebuilt, former, etc.)

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:50 pm

Thanks Pierre, I'll have a thorough look at the links and I'll be back with my questions :D
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